Recent conversations with pastoral leaders in my home Conference (Wisconsin) about young adult ministry share a common theme: there simply isn’t enough interest in the area.  Apparently, young adults don’t want what the churches have to offer.  Except, this morning when I stopped off for my morning Buzz at Beans ‘n Cream coffee shop, I noticed two small groups engaged in some deep Bible study.  One table hosted two fifty-somethings and five college students, the second table squeezed together nine twenty- and thirty-somethings.  I stopped and asked both groups what church they were from and got identical answers: we don’t go to church.

Now the default reaction for most mainline United Methodists is, why can’t we get these kids to come to church?  They study the Bible — they’re obviously interested in the Christian faith.  It seems like they are a prime target audience.  They want to grow in their faith, we’re the church — BINGO!  But therein lies the rub.  Church and the Christian faith are not the same thing, and much of what those inside the church find so valuable, those outside do not.  Much of what church members will tolerate, non-church members have no patience for.  Attending worship — the meat-and-potatoes of modern United Methodism — is of secondary importance to those seeking spiritual formation in small groups.  The sad fact is, we DON’T have what a large population is looking for.  They want relationship with God, we offer them relationship with a church (small “c”).

Now, don’t get upset.  There is nothing wrong with church.  I spend most of my days trying to help churches.  I think churches are swell.  But I also recognize the gaping chasm between Church — the body of Christ incarnate to serve in the world — and church — where we go on Sunday for worship and may gather during the week for programs, classes, meetings, suppers, and events.  For the segment of our population seeking the former, they often are completely turned off by the latter.  It is symptomatic of a church whose “busyness” displaces the “business” of the church — i.e., getting members instead of building community.

I have a passion and a deep desire to see strong young adult ministries — but I understand that they will not conform to a traditional vision.  Each time I raise the need for young adult ministries in my Conference, some well-meaning NOT young adult pipes in with, “We need to form a Young Adult Coordinating Committee!”  I quietly shake my head.  When I speak to young people and tell them the Conference wants to form a young adult “committee/council/planning group,” they beg me not to let it happen.  The fastest way to kill any kind of young adult focus is to force it into an old structure.  Young adults want form to follow function in organize ways — let the purpose and vision define the means of forming community and structure.  It isn’t rocket science… but it also isn’t the way “we’ve always done it before.”

Another symptom of this disease are the number of forty- and fifty-year-olds who want to “be involved” in young adult ministry.  Young adults are fine with non-young-adults providing resources and support, but if the older generation is running things, then it really isn’t young adult ministry.  It is not enough to be in ministry “to” young adults, or provide ministry “for” young adults, or even to be in ministry “with” young adults.  Young adults need to be in ministry to and for one another, and beyond themselves in the world.  Many young adults are suspicious of the older generations “welcoming them” into the existing structure.  We (over-40s) may want them (under-40s) to lead “our” church in the future, but that doesn’t seem to be the highest goal and value of young adults.  Living well and doing good are much higher priorities that believing right and being good — normative expectations of the existing church for younger seekers.

In the past twenty years, I have found absolutely no difficulty in striking up conversations about spirituality, God, Jesus Christ, Christian service, faith formation, and transformation — people are starving for such engagement.  But during the same period I have found it increasingly tricky to talk about church, religion, membership, and worship with those OUTSIDE the church.  These topics seem to be all we inside care to discuss, which is why people outside aren’t that excited about coming inside.

Making disciples of Jesus Christ for the transformation of the world requires structure and resources — but it doesn’t require much of what we have become addicted to in the church: large buildings, expensive music programs, paid staffing, more and bigger and better equipment.  Most young seekers after Christ aren’t interested in those things.  Mostly, they want coffee (or tea), a table, time, and some compassionate, open people willing to sit with them and wrestle with the questions and concerns that emerge when they seriously wonder “why” and “what for.”  You cannot leave the church building without falling over one of them… but if you wait until they come to us, good luck.  They’ve already tried the church looking for Jesus, and all too often discovered he isn’t there.  But we already knew that — Jesus goes where the need is, and that — more often than not — is out in the world.

38 responses to “Dots Dying to Be Connected”

  1. Charles Avatar
    Charles

    What about what God wants? It seems that the gospel is no longer the relevent issue today. Everyone seems to find it a waste of time to study the scriptures. II Timothy 2: 15 Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

    1. doroteos2 Avatar
      doroteos2

      Why the assumption that what God wants is something different from what deeply spiritual, faithful Christians want? I’ve interviewed thousands of Christians inside organized churches and outside — those most interested in God’s will are outside, not inside. The “church” has other concerns. The bottom line? The church IS FAILING to help people discern GOD’S will. All the defensiveness in the world will not change this.

      1. Mike Quimby Avatar
        Mike Quimby

        Amen!

  2. Ann Laymon Avatar
    Ann Laymon

    My church is a small group of people that range in age from nineteen to fifty-five. None of us go to a church, so this isn’t an age thing. It is a way of understanding the Christian life as integrated into our real lives. The churches we have attended all take us out of the world in wierd ways — rather than leaving the world to go to church we want a religion that goes with us in our daily lives. My strongest, best relationships are with people I talk to about what I believe and what is really important to me. We meet at different times throughout the week, and invariably our conversation turns to our beliefs. Church isn’t a place to us, it is who we are together.

  3. John Meunier Avatar
    John Meunier

    The church still doesn’t get it.

    It seems like there is a continuum of views about the church. Some people see nothing good in it. Others sanctify the church to such a degree that they can bear no suggestion that it needs to change.

    The first group appear to have contempt for tradition and the wisdom of previous generations of Christians. The second group often sounds hostile to the movement of the Spirit in new ways.

    I wonder how we get past such limited understandings of the body of Christ?

  4. Lindsey Avatar

    Public space requires public conversations. Many of our congregations are unwilling or incapable of these types of conversations. The church can’t continue to “control” the discussion when it’s off campus and in the real world.

    Young adults are having these conversations openly & honestly, speaking their minds and beliefs without intimidation or criticism. All the topics pastors shy away from due to the fear of lost tithes or
    less crowded pews are exactly the things the world wants to be in conversation around.

    And another interesting point is that the young adults don’t want the churches answers. They want to have the conversation and come to their own faithful conclusion. Once again – we aren’t very good at this…being open to multiple interpretations and leaving the question on the table.

    The church still doesn’t get it. I see no signs of real change anytime soon.

  5. Jeff Uhler Avatar
    Jeff Uhler

    Yes, yes, yes… so why is our denomination focusing on “growing younger” by forming other structures to study, discern, and form young adult ministries? Why did our General Conference not listen to the younger adults that were present – ie., the hymnal discussion and the lack of a need for a new one…? Why do we continue to insist on ministries being formed that fit our older and ________ structures?

    I’m beginning work on doing just what you’re describing – setting myself in a public place to have faith conversations – this spring. This is the direction God is leading me to build the faith community. If we, our conference and denomination, are really serious about this devlopment, how might we best support such without getting in the way?

  6. dave Avatar
    dave

    Dan writes “Living well and doing good are much higher priorities that believing right and being good — normative expectations of the existing church for younger seekers.”

    I can see the truth in this statement. My questions are around how to “host” the kind of coffee conversations that you describe. Is it a matter of individuals/couples being available in the right place at the right time? Can one “gather” a group? How close is the connection between the coffee group and the congregation? And then there’s the institutional question: is it reasonable to expect some sort of tie-in with the ongoing ministries of the congregation (supporting mission work, pre-school, etc.)? Or do we leave all that in the hands and hearts of the forming groups?

    1. doroteos2 Avatar
      doroteos2

      It’s striking to me the number of people who share the basic concept of reading the Bible or spiritual literature in public places who begin conversations around issues of faith that lead to regular faith exchanges. I know of a number of churches that “dispatch” pairs or trios of people into public places to read and discuss the Bible as a way of making safe spaces for people to enter conversation. A number of people post a general invitation in a public place to have a faith conversation. There isn’t “one good way” of doing it. It seems to be a case of putting people in the place of most potential. Many “coffee shop” groups meet by “accident,” though they coalesce around people who position themselves in public places to have faith conversations. Evangelism 21st century style.

  7. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    Great article Dan!!! Reading a new book about Asbury and the Early Methodist — they went where the people were and they sacrificed their own future for the proclimation of the Good News! Oh may their tribe increase and may our church start to be more of a “movement” instead of a “moument to the past”!!! Thanks for a well written and thought-provoking piece!

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