I am becoming more and more convinced that coffee shops are the new mission frontier.  I stopped at Beans ‘n’ Creme in Sun Prairie this morning for my usual fix (nothing fancy, just plain old coffee…) and I saw a group of men all with their Bibles open having a rather animated conversation.  They were talking about the new PBS series, God in America, that premiered last night (and that I intended to plug on my blog BEFORE it aired, but I got busy and forgot…).  This brought to mind the number of posters, emails, and invites I have seen the past two weeks for viewing parties.  What is striking is that all the invitations I have seen or received have been from Lutherans, Catholics, ecumenical groups or campus ministries.  Not one viewing party that I am aware of was United Methodist.  I find this interesting and a little sad, because almost every other mainline church in our state has been promoting the series.  Hmmm…..

One of the men in the discussion group who knows me and knows that I am a UM clergyman, waved me over and said, “We have a quick question we’ve been arguing about:  do you have to go to church to be a Christian?”  Quick question indeed!  I realize they wanted a “yes” or “no,” but any of you who have read my blogs know that I can never answer a question simply.  It’s not in my nature.  My Socratic side kicked in and I answered their question with a question: “Depends.  How do you define church?”  Most there were thinking of the steepled building in their neighborhood where people congregate occasionally to sing songs, hear a sermon, toss a few bucks in a bowl, then exit to head home for the Packers game.  I pushed back:  “if your question is really ‘do we need other people in order to be Christian?’ I would answer ‘yes.’  I don’t believe that Judaism or Christianity were ever intended to be personal and private experiences of God for the individual.  Our faith is a shared faith that shapes and equips us to be in service to others.  This is impossible to achieve in isolation.”  You would have thought I spit my coffee on them.  Four of them started talking at once about how they are good Christians and that they don’t need a church or other people to be faithful and that I’m biased because I work for the church.  One man, red in the face, said, “I pray, I read the Bible, I’m kind to others — I think it is a complete waste of time to go to church!”  I replied, “So, what are you doing here?”  He looked confused, looked at his friends and the Bibles open before each of them and said, “This isn’t church!”

I walked outside and noticed two men — one middle-aged and looking very dirty and tattered, and one twenty-something — also looking dirty and tattered, but intentionally so.  The older of the two had approached the younger of the two for money.  The younger man said he wouldn’t give him money, but he would take him to the diner and buy him breakfast.  The older man brightened up and agreed, and as they walked away I heard the young guy say, “Do you believe in God?”  He said it so openly and casually that it startled me.  I was in the presence of a true evangelist in the Jamesian tradition!  The second thought that struck me is “I can’t think of more than a handful of people active in our churches today who would be ready and willing to do what that young man just did.”

I opened my email upon reaching work and had my heart strangely broken (rather than warmed).  Two weeks ago I posted a blog, Make-No-Wave United Methodist Church, that generated over 100 comments.  The premise was a young pastor asking three questions — what is the church, what is the church for, and what do our membership vows really mean?  He suggested that the church could be better and do better.  The laity leadership of his church and his district superintendent told him to back off and not push people to grow in their faith.  People come to church to be loved and cared for, and we should simply leave them alone.  The comments were fairly evenly divided between those who sided with the young pastor and those who sided with the church leaders and DS.  However one casualty of the debate emerged to share with me this morning:

I’ve had it.  The system wins.  The powers and principalities are stronger than my faith.  I am done.  I am leaving the ministry.  At least the ordained ministry.  I have got to get out of this rotten system so that I can actually serve God and do God’s will.  I took your article (Make-No-Wave) to my church council to talk about “those” churches dying of low expectations and no vision and apathy and complacency and how glad I am that we aren’t one of those churches.  And you know what they said?  They don’t want to be pushed.  They do just want to be loved.  They really don’t care what is happening in the rest of the world.  The rest of the world is what they are trying to escape by coming to church.  They hate it when I “make them feel guilty” that they aren’t doing more.  They put up with me.  They tolerate all my “motivational clap-trap,” as one council member so kindly put it, because they know they don’t have to do anything they don’t want to, so they can ignore it.  One person did say that it was fine for me to do these ministries, and that if others wanted to do them that was fine, but they resented me trying to impose my standards and expectations on them.  I can’t do this anymore.  I’m not blaming you.  Your article didn’t make this happen.  It just uncovered what I have been in denial about for a long, long time.  The church is dead but just hasn’t had the good grace to lie down.  It stinks to high heaven, but we pretend it’s roses instead of naming what it really is.  $#!&.  I am totally fed up trying to talk people into wanting to be Christian.  I cannot believe this is what God called me to.

I haven’t responded yet, other than to ask if I could share this person’s frustration publicly.  The person gave me permission, saying it wasn’t going to be any big secret — the gears are already in motion.  It made me very sad.  What do we really have that we are calling church?  Are low expectations, apathy, complacency, squabbling, building buildings, paving parking lots, paying bills, and puttin’ on a show a couple times a week what we’re about?  Is it really a bad thing to encourage and challenge people to be better and to actually live and practice a faith rather than just hear and think about it?  Truly, as The United Methodist Church what do we believe God is calling us to do and be?  Maybe our next multi-million dollar marketing campaign will tell us…

22 responses to “Random Thoughts”

  1. Dave Whitman Avatar
    Dave Whitman

    Two comments:

    Coffee Houses the new mission frontier? Depends on how you define “new.” Elizabeth O’ Connor wrote about it in 1963 (Call to Commitment), describing Church of the Savior’s coffee house ministry that opened in early 1960. So if new means in the last 50 years or so…then I suppose so. A fantastic read, by the way…I re-read it to remind myself that ministry and church really can happen.

    Re: the pastor leaving the ministry…my heart is strangely broken and…empathetic.

    Thank you for posting in a truly authentic way.

  2. Tom Bolton Avatar
    Tom Bolton

    So, what did you think of PBS series, God in America, last night? I only got to watch half of it, so I plan to watch the first segment when it is re-run at 11 pm tonight. I hope to see them all this week. I like the first episode quite a bit. It included some history that I had not thought about in over 35 years, I hate to admit. It is funny how we tend to focus on small segments of American history after we are out of school. at least, I think I observe that in my life. The reviews have been mostly positive.

  3. Wayne Avatar

    I’m a licensed local pastor serving a 3 point charge. I’ve served one of the churches for 3 years and gained the other 2 at annual conference. The church that I’ve been serving is actively involved in a food pantry ministry that is serving over 1200 people per month (avg attendance is 42). The 2 “new” congregations on this circuit are dying, have no desire to reach out to the community and just want a chaplain to hold their hand and make them feel good. All I can say is thank God that the church that I’ve been serving for the past 3 years is the last one that I’m in on Sunday morning because otherwise I would be so depressed that I would probably be like the pastor you mention at the end of the post.

    1. Dave Avatar
      Dave

      Your charge is similar to mine, one is strong and the other two are dying. The difference is that the other two want to grow, but are just getting so old and are running out of steam. The truth is that their communities are growing older. The local baptist pastor in one of the communities I serve, is having the same difficulties. Many of us serving rural churches are simply facing the realities of demographic changes due to low birth rate, no in migration, and little opportunities for work for the few younger people we have living in our communities. They have to leave for greener pastures. If you’re interested, respond and I will share more of my thoughts.
      Rest In Him

      1. Dave Avatar
        Dave

        Wayne,
        I forgot to select the notify me box to let you know that I am interested in your reply to my previous post.

  4. Stephen Avatar
    Stephen

    I believe Ray Oldenburg refers to these places as “Third Places” and they are exactly the places where the church can truly be the church.

  5. Rex Nelson Avatar

    Methodism used to be the “church in the world” exactly as Taylor described it. What happened? Did it happen when we became a denomination instead of an auxiliary? At that time, did we begin focusing toward building the organization and away from building the New Kingdom? I am now even more convinced that I am on the right path with Lay Servant Ministries in Southeast Wisconsin. That it is a path of discipleship open to all, not just a pulpit club for the chosen few.

    1. Rex Nelson Avatar

      Thank you! All of you! If anyone doubts the presence of Jesus when two or three are gathered ONLINE, bring them here. Thanks and praise to God, whose eternal wisdom continues to surprise me.
      Your servant in Christ, Rex+

    2. Annie Avatar
      Annie

      There are lots of places to serve without subjecting oneself to an almost Pharisaical structure. God can use us all in lots of places.

      1. Dave Avatar
        Dave

        I assume that you’re referring to the ordination process and administrative structure of the church?

  6. Dave Avatar
    Dave

    Maybe the pastor who’s leaving the ordained ministry has simply discovered what has always been in our recent collective memories–churches have not been involved in real Christian ministry. In the past, churches were able to exist because the churches were the social centers of the communities that simply reproduced themselves. That is, couples living in much less transient times had more children than they do today, so pastors didn’t really do ministry either. They mostly comforted the self propetuating system. They just helped to sustain the system. Bake sales, fund raisers, bizaars, Christmas programs, etc. were the business/ministry of the local church. The money given for apportionments was for ministers to do ministry; that’s what they were trained to do. Their job was to give money to support missionaries in the darker countries and communities of the world, and so forth. Perhaps, this observation is a rather black & white description of Christianity in America. But I think it’s a generally true observation. The truth is that pastors in the past did not have to be concerned with growing their churches, because their churches grew naturally. Thus, today we have leaders that measure a church’s health in terms of how well they’re paying their apportionments. I think it’s time that the UMC bishops and others in the position of spending apportionment dollars learn to see that our dying communities are the new mission field. There seems to be an attitude of: Our job is to distribute apportionment dollars and blame the preachers if the dollars decline. Wake up, the UMC has been dying (bleeding members) since it’s founding.

  7. Taylor Burton-Edwards Avatar

    Not just the coffee shop, Dan, but our neighborhoods, other shopping venues, leisure facilities, wherever we happen to encounter other people in our lives… All of that is mission field.

    If the Pew Report on Religion among the Millennials tells us anything, it is that the decline of religious affiliation across the board has dramatically escalated over the past six decades. Nothing we have done– none of the “next big things” over all those years– has changed the rate of folks with no affiliation finding one. We’ve been flat-lined at 4% all these years. Meanwhile, the rate of dis-affiliation (moving from affiliated to non-affiliated) has moved from 7% to 18% with no end of that upward spiral in sight.

    I’ve written “Dr Suess” version of that report– and the vision that our real work as disciplers of Jesus is what it always was, not what “the next big thing” has tried to distract us into focusing on these last six decades– over on the blog, emergingumc (linked with my name in this post). If you or others find it useful, feel free to use it.

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