Somehow (it’s not hard to understand…) I have developed the reputation of actively disliking Igniting Ministry/ReThink Church/”Open Hearts, Open Minds, Open Doors.”  This isn’t actually true, but perception shapes reality.  I united-methodist20logoam critical of our marketing work/branding efforts for a wide variety of reasons, but I have never said Igniting Ministry and/or ReThink Church are bad.  In fact, I think they have great potential, stir up productive and helpful discussion, and point us in the direction we want to go.  But I also believe they are failing to achieve this potential, our leaders are essentially unaware of the discussion being stirred, and many in the target audience are still unclear what our direction is.  Let me explain.

Part of the work I have done in the past number of years is to meet with groups of United Methodists, non-UMs, Christians, non-Christians, and a wide variety of spiritual seekers from every walk of American life to listen.  I listen to their thoughts, their hopes and dreams, their beliefs, and their impressions of the church and all things church related.  I try to listen as objectively as possible — sometimes more successfully than others.  Then I rethinkchurch_logo_try to report (once again, as accurately as possible) what I hear.  What I have heard, both within the faith and without, about Igniting Ministries and ReThink Church  has been a) predominantly indifferent, b) significantly negative, and c) moderately positive.  I report it that way because that’s the way I hear it.  I am not trying to be negative.  The simple fact is that we aren’t reaching who we want, and often those we do reach don’t much like what they see.

For example:  I had the opportunity just this week to meet with seventeen college students and two professors at Vanderbilt University.  We were talking about faith issues, so I raised the question, “have you seen the ReThink church materials online?”  No one had, so one of the professors brought it up on a large screen, and we held an impromptu focus group.  We looked at a few of the video pieces, some of the support materials, and navigated the page for awhile.  The overall response was “meh,” but with an occasional guffaw.  Apart from one or two pieces that people agreed were “okay,” some of the quotes I captured were,

Who is this for?  I don’t want to have happy church people tell me I’m missing out.  It doesn’t even really sound like the church.

This is, like, really lame.  I don’t believe them.  They sound like they’re trying to figure out what to say that I would want to hear, except that it’s obvious they don’t know me at all.

These are plastic people saying plastic things.  Why would I want to listen to them?

I don’t get how this is Christian?  I don’t get how this is even church?  It’s like they go out of their way to act like they’re something they’re not.

This lacks credibility.  There’s not one authentic thing in anything we watched.  It seems fake, and I tend to be suspicious anyway.  If this is the United Methodist Church, I’m not interested.

This is all contrived.  It looks and sounds phony.

That heart, doors thing with the <derogatory> guy looks like he’s trying to tell my parents there’s something good for me in his church.  Was this made in the 80s?  (To which someone else responded, ‘Yeah, but the James Earl Jones guy made it sound like a great spoof.’)

Now, these are Christian young men and women — people who actually like church.  They are a random sample of young men and women, racially diverse, 20-25 years of age.  I would love to share other comments, but the only things said are along the same lines of those above.  These young people did not like, trust, or accept what they saw.  I can’t share anything else, because there is nothing else to share.

Igniting Ministries is a bit more complex.  In hundreds of interviews, I have found a handful of people who were moved to connect with The United Methodist Church because they were attracted by the “open hearts, open, minds, open doors” marketing appeal.  Unfortunately, I encountered a larger group who were initially attracted, but then found that Methodist congregations could not deliver on the promise.  Here are some observations about the “openness” of the UMC:

from a genetic scientist:

There is no place for me in this church.  I grew up Methodist, but I can’t go back.  I’ve tried.  My pastor told me that my work ‘offended’ good Christian church members.  He said that a good Christian couldn’t be a scientist, and that a scientist couldn’t be a Christian.  I have tried a number of churches.  I went back because of the “open minds” campaign.  Don’t kid yourself.”

from a twenty-something Cuban-American woman:

I needed to clean up my life.  I took my kids to the church with the banner.  It was clear that nobody wanted us there.  My kids are a little loud.  People couldn’t wait for us to leave, that’s how ‘open’ they were.

from a lifelong Methodist:

I was the church choir director for over twenty years.  I grew up in the church.  I worked with the youth group since the early 80s.  After years of struggling, I finally got the courage to admit to my church family that I am a lesbian after our pastor preached a sermon on how important it is to be honest in a family, even a church family.  It was the worst decision I ever made.  People left the choir.  They voiced a concern to the pastor about me being with their kids.  When it was a secret, I was fine, but when I was honest, people hated me.  If you think Methodists are open-minded or open-hearted, think again.  My own church family slammed the door on me.  I will never go back.

from a homeless man in Tennessee:

All I wanted was a place to go, you know?  All I wanted was to be accepted?  There’s a church in town that put a sign out — “open hearts and doors” (sic) so I went in.  People wouldn’t talk to me, except a man who said I shouldn’t hang out in the church because I was making people ‘uncomfortable.’

from a young man, multi-pierced and broadly tattooed from head to toe, from the streets of the Bronx:

oh, man, the m*****f***** shirts got all stiff when I came in.  I want to know what the f*** God is all about.  S***, you know there ain’t noplace in the church for me.  I open my mouth and s***, ten big guys descend on me to throw me out.  F***, you don’t care about nobody.  You only ‘open’ to those just like you.

When I share these quotes, UMs far and wide want to argue that, of course, a few people will feel like this.  Yes, I guess, but it is worth noting that I have over 750 such quotes from only 4,181 interviews (113 positive quotes).  I can’t report that I think this campaign was well received when 18.4% of the responses are negative, and only 2.7% are positive.  Sure, we don’t want to dismiss the 2.7%, but we absolutely cannot dismiss the 18.4% who are turned off, offended, or alienated by the message.  This doesn’t even speak to the 75+% who aren’t even aware of it after eight long years.

Some will say that “Open Hearts, Minds, and Doors” is a goal, not a descriptor.  That’s both dishonest and disingenuous.  We advertised what the people of the UMC are, not what they wish they were or what they’re trying to be.  In short, seven times as many people think we lied as think we told the truth.  And perception shapes reality.

My advice is that we need to be very careful with ReThink Church — learn the lessons that our culture tried to teach us about Igniting Ministry.  If we aren’t willing to truly change — to rethink, restructure, recreate, and redeem, we shouldn’t say we will.  A lot of people are skeptical.  We, as a denomination, lack credibility, trust, and respect.  It needs to be earned, and we can’t allow another ad campaign to further damage our reputation.

That means we have got to really change.  To become something we have not been before.  We cannot preserve the old institution and expect people to think it’s something innovative.  We need to challenge the status quo, tackle the hard questions, and be ready to become, oh, I don’t know… maybe a transformed church in a world we seek to transform.

36 responses to “Igniting Misery”

  1. Peter Wells Avatar
    Peter Wells

    Just because you have a thought doesn’t mean you have to write about it. You write too much and say too little.

    1. doroteos2 Avatar
      doroteos2

      Many would agree, with a resounding Amen! (But it’s my blog, so I get to write what I want)

  2. eric pone Avatar

    I am trying to remain positive on the ReThink campaign. The facebook group doesn’t help though. Most of the folks are boomers or older. Now there is nothing wrong with that if that is the group you are targeting.

    So so far the use of social media to ramp up interest has not been pretty. The website really really really rehehehehehallly sucks. It isn’t user friendly and the 500 ideas that are cheap to implement are from the mid nineties! The user experience gives the impression it was a org that took a bunch of their brochures and old seminars and put it up on the web. The program lacks a common theme, touch, feel, language and social networking capability. It also assumes a suburban culture.

    The problem to me is the connection itself. We are a common table in the institutional sense but at the regional and local levels the connection is nonexistent save the cheerleaders. We give a lot of talk to it. How can we possibly rethink a process and be consistent when there isn’t a system that actually supports the mission and holds congregations accountable for the results? The Bishop in my conference put out the goals for the next few years. They were the same washed up goals from bygone era save for placing them in the Rethink context!

    How about……
    TV ministries that are quality and lack the feel of a public access show. Say what you want about the Mac Hammonds of the world but they took paper thin theology and paired it with media for success.

    Radio and webcasts that have the quality of a Joel Osteen and are interactive.(LifeChurch.TV does this well and……oh yeah they were once UMC….wow)

    Web pages that target and minister to young adults in the way they need to be ministered to and that are run by young adults.

    Commercials that don’t suck or are eery! (copyright Anthony Bourdain)

    Regional conferences like the Kenneth Copeland or Hillsong tours. That bring together people with great music and preaching.Maybe some cool lighting. (conferences that people who are not leaders or pastors want to go to)

    Push new people into new church starts. Putting a lot of new people together doing new ministry is a great way to put energy back into the denomination, build ownership and create disciples. Hey… here is an idea let the new congregations then market to the ones in decline to truly force change from within! (its like selling a an established list of leads. get folks to deepen the relationship!)

    And stop relying on congregations of 100-200 who are in decline and lack young leadership to get it and do it!!! Come on Annual Conferences put money and time and talent towards this!!!

    The Lorax now sits.

    1. doroteos2 Avatar
      doroteos2

      Let the Lorax speak! Your ideas are sound (not noise). I often feel like our idea of contemporary is “five years ahead of the average local church, ten years behind the dominant culture.” The website does feel like a cutting-edge 1994 site. What I truly wish is that we would declare a moratorium on marketing in order to redefine (rethink?) the core beliefs and practices, theological worldview and task, and desired goals and objectives of The UMC aligned with its current mission. If we got all this clarified in context and in connection, then (and only then) would we have something of value to market, broadcast, promote, and share. As it is, we’re all over the map, sharing a fragmented and inconsistent message, and turning off more of those we hope to reach than we actually attract.

  3. SCinNC Avatar
    SCinNC

    Hi, Dan, I was part of the early discussion groups (with you and others at UMCOM) about Igniting Ministry and the training component. What we worked on and what it became were two very different things. I think the problem was that many of the agency staff who worked on the project thought it was going to be a tool for evangelism and faith sharing, when in fact it was advertising. I would not have wasted my time working on it if I had known what it really was and how it would be used. It broke my heart to see such an incredible opportunity be wasted. “OPen Hearts, Open Minds, Open Doors” is an amazing claim, and a compelling vision of where we ought to be. If it had been an internal emphasis to improve our evangelism and witness, it would have been great. As a promotional campaign to draw in new members, it was doomed from the beginning.

    1. doroteos2 Avatar
      doroteos2

      Hey, “SC,” long time. I appreciate your reflections. I sometimes forget how Igniting Ministry was originally pitched to us and the hopes we had for it in the early days. I think Barbara Nissan and a host of others were sincere in asking for our input. It was the marketing people who were less interested in what we thought should be included, and most interested in using us as a test group for what they wanted to do. I think I left the project shortly before you did, but there were quite a few that got discouraged along the way. My prayer is that the lessons learned along the Igniting Ministry journey will help inform the ReThink church project. We’ll see…

  4. John Meunier Avatar
    John Meunier

    I’ve often wondered why we did not advertise with the message – “We’re all screwed up, too. But Jesus wants us anyway. Come join us.”

    Or something more graceful than that.

    Yes, I know, there are many churches that make a point of not letting anyone admit that there are sinners inside the church doors, but it seems to me that the only honest ad campaign is one that says people in church are – by and large – just as trouble, sinful, messed up, and lost as those outside.

    1. doroteos2 Avatar
      doroteos2

      Right on. I might amend your slogan as, “We’re all screwed up, too. Trying to be better. Come get better with us.” This still may promise something we’re not actually able to deliver, though.

  5. Kelvin Heitmann Avatar

    I liked the “Open” slogan, but found the degree of openness varies significantly from congregation to congregation. Some congregations were suspicious of the slogan and feared it allowed most anyone to come to church. Obviously, their club was exclusive. Others embraced the idea, but found the practice more of a challenge.

    The congregation I now serve as pastor probably doesn’t know anything about the “Rethink” campaign and I do not intend to say much about it. I believe strongly in a contextual-based plan of ministry. Part of that context is the composition of my congregation. From this context I am asking, along with the leaders, what our strengths are and how we can build on them. This probably doesn’t involve as much rethinking as reality-thinking. We are challenged by the realization that in some ways we are a closed community with a vision for greater inclusiveness.

    1. doroteos2 Avatar
      doroteos2

      Kelvin, you are onto the key — context. I have been saying in training sessions and consultations for the past few years, “Nobody else has your answer.” We can use other people’s tools, but often those tools were effective, because they were uniquely crafted to serve a particular context. Looking at books, attending trainings and leadership institutes, spending time with “teaching” churches — these and other things can spark new thinking, but very rarely can you take something someone else did out of its original context and hope to achieve the same results. Generic, one-size-fits-all thinking has dominated the church resource industry for over fifty years. Interestingly, the healthiest, most effective churches are also the churches that avoid these resources and don’t read the books written by “church experts.” (Yes, I know I have written a bunch of them…) Paul’s admonition to “work out your own salvation with fear and trembling” is nowhere more appropriate than in the local congregation. Tools make a job easier, but it is the hands, hearts, and minds of the people who use them that make all the difference.

  6. Rob Avatar
    Rob

    My wife and I attend one of the Igniting Ministry “teaching” churches, and I want to say this is a load of garbage. We got “training” on how to be nice, friendly, welcoming, and were even told “you may not feel comfortable doing it, but hospitality can be learned.” If it isn’t real, it isn’t hospitality, and at our “open” church it isn’t real. I can only wonder at the number of people who have come to our church who left thinking the same thing the people in your story felt. Don’t get me wrong. We are nice enough people, but mostly to each other, and I think that is true of most churches. I’ve seen this all before. In a few more months we will fold up the banners and stick them in a closet, we’ll change our motto to something else, and a year from now nobody will even remember we did this. And believe me, we have sunk a whole battleship of money on this thing. It didn’t ring true when we started it, and it doesn’t ring true today, even though United Methodist Communications has worked with us all along the way. It hasn’t been a bad program, but it hasn’t been worth it either.

    1. doroteos2 Avatar
      doroteos2

      Thanks, Rob, for sharing the insider’s story. I have heard from a large number of pastors and other church leaders in churches that have really committed to the Igniting Ministries campaign very similar stories. To be fair, I have heard three or four stories of success where people have absolutely RAVED about the campaign. For the people who loved it, they really loved it. For the people who didn’t, they REALLY didn’t. I appreciate your candor.

  7. Kuz Avatar
    Kuz

    “That means we have got to really change.”

    Good luck with that one.

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